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Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-17-2001 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
According to Spin Magazine's 50 most essential punk records are:
1. Ramones "Ramones" (Sire 1976)
2. Wire "Pink Flag" (Harvest 1977)
3. the Clash "The Clash" (CBS 1979)
4. X "Los Angeles" (Slash 1980)
5. X-Ray Spex "Germfree Adolescents" (EMI 1978)
6. Buzzcocks "Singles Going Steady" (IRS 1979)
7. Gang of Four "Entertainment!" (Warner Bros. 1979)
8. Husker Du "New Day Rising" (SST 1985)
9. the Raincoats "The Raincoats" (Rough Trade 1979)
10. Sex Pistols "Never Mind the Bollocks ..." (Warner Bros. 1977)
11. Joy Division "Unknown Pleasures" (Factory 1979)
12. Richard Helll & the Voidoids "Blank Generation" (Warner Bros. 1977)
13. Nirvana "In Utero" (DGC/Sub Pop 1993)
14. Pere Ubu "The Modern Dance" (Blank 1978)
15. the Slits "Cut" (Antilies 1979)
16. Bad Brains "Bad Brains" (ROIR 1982)
17. PiL "Metal Box/Second Edition" (Virgin UK 1979/Island 1980)
18. Black Flag "Damaged" (SST 1981)
19. Sleater-Kinney "Dig Me Out" (Kill Rock Stars 1997)
20. Descendents "Milo Goes to College" (SST 1982)
21. Flipper "Album: Generic Flipper" (Subterranean 1981)
22. Minutemen "Double Nickels on the Dime" (SST 1984)
23. various "No New York" (Antilles 1978)
24. the Fall "Hex Enduction Hour"(Kamera 1982)
25. the Replacements "Sorry Ma, Forgot ..." (Twin/Tone 1981)
26. Kleenex/Liliput "Liliput" (Kill Rock Stars, reissue 2001)
27. Minor Threat "Complete Discography" (Dischord 1988)
28. Meat Puppets "Meat Puppets II" (SST 1983)
29. Bikini Kill "Pussy Whipped" (Kill Rock Stars 1993)
30. Germs "Germs (MIA): the Complete Anthology" (Slash 1993)
31. Sonic Youth "Evol" (SST 1986)
32. Mekons "Fear and Whiskey" (Sin 1985)
33. Fugazi "13 Songs" (Dischord 1990)
34. Mission of Burma "Vs." (Ace of Hearts 1982)
35. Rancid "...and Out Come the Wolves" (Epitaph 1995)
36. the Pogues "Rum, Sodomy and the Lash" (Stiff/MCA 1985)
37. Pussy Galore "Groovy Hate Fuck" (Shove 1986)
38. Devo "Q: Are We Not Men? ..." (Warner Bros. 1978)
39. Beat Happening "Beat Happening" (K 1985)
40. Wipers "Is this Real?" (Park Ave. 1980)
41. Big Black "Songs About Fucking" (Touch and Go 1987)
42. Green Day "Dookie" (Reprise 1994)
43. Ministry "The Land of Rape and Honey" (Sire 1988)
44. Boredoms "Soul Discharge" (Shimmy Disc 1990)
45. the Jesus and Mary Chain "Psychocandy" (Reprise 1985)
46. Dead Kennedys "Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables" (IRS 1980)
47. Rage Against the Machine "The Battle of Los Angeles" (Epic 1990)
48. various "Oi! the Album" (EMI 1980)
49. Repo Man (original soundtrack) (MCA 1984)
50. Public Enemy "It Takes a Nation of Millions ..." (Def Jam 1988




Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-17-2001 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Let's say that I disagree with some of this list:
No Jam records
No Stooges records
Where is the First Modern Lovers Record
Why are the Meat Puppets on the list?
Devo and Minor threat should be Higher
Why is rancid on the list and not Operation Ivy?
I am happy about Wire and Gang of Four being in the top Ten.
Also that Beat Happening is on the List at all.

Lotus666
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posted 04-17-2001 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotus666     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I am not a lover of so-called "Punk" music...but I do like The Clash & Devo...and don't mind some of Nirvana or Green Day. (You are right about Devo needing to be higher up the list, Rocket.)

Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-17-2001 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I am rereading the list and I am asking where is the Misfits and Crass? Why is Pere Ubu on the list?

[This message has been edited by Jonny Rocket (edited 04-17-2001).]

spam pilot
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posted 04-17-2001 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spam pilot   Click Here to Email spam pilot     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I did'nt know the Pogues are considrer to be punk.

[This message has been edited by spam pilot (edited 04-17-2001).]

catapault007
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posted 04-17-2001 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catapault007   Click Here to Email catapault007     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
WHAT, no Dead Milkmen...this list is so wrong

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mosrite
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posted 04-18-2001 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mosrite   Click Here to Email mosrite     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
this list isn't that bad for the coporate magazine they are. Just imagine what rollingstones would have looked like. It probably would have had radiohead on it. Its good that there were no new pop punk bands like mxpx or any of that crap on there.

Jogger
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posted 04-18-2001 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jogger   Click Here to Email Jogger     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Catapault I'm with you on that one.
The first thing I noticed was No Dead MilkMen.
I don't agree with Nirvana being a part of the list not to mention that they listed them above Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, and meat puppets.
Christ, Black Flag was stomping the shit out of Kirt Cobrains parents long before Nirvana.

Ah, what the hell!

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FatJohnny
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posted 04-18-2001 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
No Exploited? No NoFx? Or Bad Religion? What about the Vandals, the Toy Dolls or the Dickies?

And why the hell is Rage against the machine on there? Because they're political? Eh...

FatJohnny
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posted 04-18-2001 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
But it is an okay list, though.

Nick Zbu
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posted 04-18-2001 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick Zbu   Click Here to Email Nick Zbu     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Gabba Gabba Hey.

catapault007
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posted 04-18-2001 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catapault007   Click Here to Email catapault007     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
FJ, I think the only politics involved here is between the publishers of SPIN and the record companies. Sad, state of affairs when you cant even get an honest comprhensive greatest hit lists

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manic_224
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posted 04-18-2001 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manic_224   Click Here to Email manic_224     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The only one i've heard from that list is dookie. Should i be ashamed or glad?

Nick Zbu
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posted 04-18-2001 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick Zbu   Click Here to Email Nick Zbu     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Let's put it this way: if you can watch Rock n'Roll High School without flinching, then you should be saddened.

Otherwise, your life will go on.

Jogger
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posted 04-19-2001 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jogger   Click Here to Email Jogger     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
These are 30 something’s who, while in high school, were afraid to be involved, or desperately tried to be a part of the head bangers MEof the late 80’. But that’s cool. We had fun without them. I miss the looks I would get from older people on the street. I don’t miss the bull shit from self-righteous high school teachers, or the god-fearing folks from Virginia.

180 degrees
Signed,
30 something middle management corporate asshole.

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Case B
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posted 04-19-2001 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Case B   Click Here to Email Case B     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Self-righteous high school teachers?

Try self-righteous high school guidance counselors. They're the absolute worst.

exile_11
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posted 04-19-2001 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for exile_11   Click Here to Email exile_11     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Half of the list (at least those bands I'm familiar with) would be hard pressed to be classified as punk.

And where is that quintessential Aussie punk outfit, The Saints?

Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-19-2001 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Aussies don't count

exile_11
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posted 04-19-2001 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for exile_11   Click Here to Email exile_11     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yes we do.

I'll have you know that I can count to twenty. Twenty one if my pants are off.

Lotus666
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posted 04-19-2001 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotus666     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Come on Exile...don't be modest...we all know you can count up to 24 then! *Giggle*

mosrite
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posted 04-20-2001 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mosrite   Click Here to Email mosrite     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Its not just a list of punk music bands but they have punk ethic as well. I think almost all of the bands are pretty much punk... except maybe nirvana... but bleach may have been kind of punk...recorded for 600 dollars... kind of in the same way modhuney is punk... even thought they were both later classified as grunge

FatJohnny
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posted 04-20-2001 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think 'In Utero' was punk. If you read interviews, they made it in hopes of alienating a portion of their audience. Noe that's rather punk.

Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-20-2001 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The only reason that "In Utero' is a good album is because of Steve Albani; end of story.
Last night I watched the VH1 25 years of punk. It started off really good. I mean who doesn't love Richard Hell and the New York Dolls? But it sucked towards the end. It went directly from DC hardcore to grunge.
I am just stick of the grunge thing getting called the rebirth of punk. The only band (in my eyes) that was punk out of that scene was Nirvanna and maybe mudhoney. They spent five minutes talking about Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains. C'mon they are far far far from punk. The show barely meantion Husker Due and the Twin Cities scene. GRRRR

Damn you VH1

Nick Zbu
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posted 04-20-2001 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nick Zbu   Click Here to Email Nick Zbu     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Pearl Jam can barely be called rock anymore, either. Whomever told lead singer to channel his alter ego, a constantly annoying 12-year-old girl who doesn't know her father, into an album needs to be castrated then shot.

mosrite
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posted 04-20-2001 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mosrite   Click Here to Email mosrite     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
pearl jam is classic rock. It always has been... But ten was a good album. even though its classic rock.

FatJohnny
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posted 04-21-2001 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Mosrite nailed it.

As for the Dead Milkmen...

If one of their albums were to appear on that list, which would it be and why? And where?

My call: "Big Lizard In My Backyard" at number 47. Very funny album, that actually spoof a lot of the punk ethos, as well as the music style.

Runner-up: "Meta-physical Graffiti" the album is just too damn funny not to mention.

catapault007
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posted 04-23-2001 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catapault007   Click Here to Email catapault007     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
"Bucky Fellini", is always worth a good listen

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Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-23-2001 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
What are you kids smoking crack? Beelzebubba is by far the greatest dead milkmen record. It takes you through the whole gammit of human emotions.

You guys make want to drink bleach.

Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-23-2001 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
What am I talking about? As much as I love the Deadmilkmen and as proudly I wore my metapysical graffiti shirt in high school, it is not a travisty that they were not on the list. There are many many more albums that I would add to the list before any dead milkmen album.

FatJohnny
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posted 04-23-2001 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
'Beezebubba' was good, but not the best. But I will always have a soft spot for 'Stuart'.

As for the list, not the word "if". I think they are far more deserving than some other folks on this list. They represent a different side of the punk picture.

FatJohnny
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posted 04-23-2001 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
And I also want to know why they limited themselves to one album per band? "Rocket To Russia" realy needs to be on there. As does "Repeater", by Fugazi.

FatJohnny
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posted 04-23-2001 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Remember! Posting numerous messages right after each other is the cool thing to do!

Lotus666
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posted 04-23-2001 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotus666     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yea, it's kinda like talking to yourself! (All the more fun if you answer yourself back!)

Joanna2
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posted 04-23-2001 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joanna2   Click Here to Email Joanna2     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
The Kennedy's should have been higher, Operation Ivy should have been on the list, but not above ...and out come the wolves. The Vandals, All, The dwarves, the misfitss, Bad religion, and I against I should have appeared.

Joanna2
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posted 04-23-2001 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joanna2   Click Here to Email Joanna2     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
....wheres stiff little fingers? or Agnostic front?

Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-24-2001 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I don't think I would even consider All punk.

Joanna2
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posted 04-24-2001 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joanna2   Click Here to Email Joanna2     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Point taken.

mosrite
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posted 04-24-2001 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mosrite   Click Here to Email mosrite     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
you have to keep in mind its a top 50 list and not a top 100 list. but hey... mmmmm why can't I be in big drill car?

FatJohnny
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posted 04-25-2001 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FatJohnny   Click Here to Email FatJohnny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Because it's in the shop.

Jonny Rocket
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posted 04-25-2001 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonny Rocket   Click Here to Email Jonny Rocket     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
mosrite, you are not in big drill car because you would get sick of playing 'A take away.' Isn't that there only song.

Just to spite this list I have been listening to the Jam nonstop. I even listed to the style council. *shudder*

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